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(Please note: The MS3 code is still in Beta format and does have bugs and issues right now. These are being worked on and will be fixed but some caution is needed when using the MS3 ECU.) |
All ECU's are plus
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All my MS3 ECUs can have the MS3X board adding for £80 when ordering.
Notes: ** Includes an MS3X board - The Spark outputs on these MS3 ECU's are 5V low current signals. They are designed to drive ignition coils with built in ignitors (LS2, VW, etc). As they have the MS3X board within them, Launch, NOS, Cam input, Boost control, etc, is all integral and included within the ECU. To drive COPs without ignitors you will need a Spark Driver Box, please see HERE |
All ECU's come with a labeled and colour coded wiring loom, comms lead + manuals
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Spark Driver Box for use with the MS3X Board
Black anodised Cases The
Fuel Only ECU's allows fueling to be controlled on virtually
all types of engines, this can be modified at a later
date for ignition use if needed. The ECU will give you
control over your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16
on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. Note: This ECU doesn't control ignition as it is Fuel Only |
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This ECU is designed
to read the signal from the GM HEI module and
trigger the HEI to fire the coil through the distributor. This ECU will give you control over your ignition map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. |
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Distributor based ECU's consists of a single direct coil output for use in a distributor based setup suitable for even fire 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10 and 12 cylinder applications. It is ideal for engines with a single coil (Distributor). These ECU's will give you control over your ignition map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. How to tell if you have a Hall sensor or a VR sensor in your distributor |
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This ECU is designed
to read the input from the Toyota VAST trigger wheel and then fire the original ignitor. (It can also fire the coil directly if you wish) This ECU will give you control over your ignition map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. This includes a Tacho Output as standard See HERE for more on the VAST setup. |
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Ford
TFI Ford Thick Film Intergration |
This
ECU is designed to read the PIP output
from the very popular Ford EDIS (12 pinned) module and drive the module's
SAW input telling the EDIS which angle to fire
the coils at. It is ideal for a wasted spark setup
when wanting to use the Ford Edis module and coil
packs. These ECU's will give you control over your ignition
map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12
table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the
engine properly. Also see my used EDIS6 and EDIS8 kits (Used, Crank sensor(VR), EDIS module, coil packs, HT leads, 36-1 ring and connectors) This includes a Tacho Output as standard |
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This
ECU is designed to read the PIP output
from the very popular Ford TFI module and fire then send a signal
to fire the coil through the distributor.
This ECU will give you control over your ignition
map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12
table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the
engine properly. |
This
setup has either 2 spark outputs (4cy), 3 spark outputs
(6cy), 4 for a V8, 5 for a V10 and 6 for a V12 making it perfect for running a wasted spark configuration
with coilpacks. This is also suitable for use with a single
coil (distributor based setup) when wanting to upgrade
your engine to wasted spark at a later date, please let
me know if this is the case. It is an ideal system for
Distributorless setups that have a crank sensor and wheel. These ECU's will give you control over your ignition map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. For 12cy wasted engines the spark drivers are in a Spark Driver Box see here, note this is included in the price for 12cy engines. (Prices in the driver box image are for MS3X boards if they need drivers adding) This includes a Tacho Output as standard |
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These
setups have a spark output for each cylinder. Wasted Spark COP: This ECU is designed to run on a 4 cylinder engine with COP's. This means that two COP's are fired together and only needs a crank signal (e.g. 36-1, 60-2). Sequential COP: If you have a suitable cam signal (1 pulse per revolution) and crank signal (e.g. 36-1, 60-2) then we can now use both these to give a Sequential COP setup, that fires one plug at a time. These ECU's will give you control over your ignition map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. This includes a Tacho Output as standard |
This ECU has 4 fuel injector outputs (8 if using the MS3 with an MS3X) so it can run each fuel injector in a fully sequential operation. See HERE for more on sequential fuel. This allows you to tune the exactly angle during the 4 stroke engine cycle that the fuel is squirted in for each cylinder. The ignition can either be coil packs (wasted spark) or COP sequential. Please note: A suitable cam signal is needed to run full sequential (1 pulse per cam revolution) and a suitable crank signal (60-2, 36-1, etc) High Impedance Injectors only! These ECU's will give you control over your ignition map 12x12 table (16x16 on MS3) and your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. The MS3 COP based setups have an MS3X board in them which gives you tacho output, launch control, NOS control, ADC inputs, etc see HERE for more. If using the MS3X then you'll need to use COPs with built in ignitors, e.g LS1, etc, as the MS3X board uses a low level spark output (5V) that can not directly fire coils without an ignitor. If the COPs dont have built in Ignitors then there is the option of adding a Spark Driver Box, see HERE |
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This setup has either 3 or 4 fuel injector outputs that can run the fuel injectors in pairs in a Semi-Sequential fuel pattern on a 6 or 8cy engine. This allows you to tune the exact angle the fuel is squirted in during the CRANK cycle, so half will be squirted in during the exhaust stroke (inlet valve shut) and the other half just before the inlet opens, see HERE for more on sequential fueling. Please note this needs a suitable crank signal, e.g. 36-1, 60-2, etc. High Impedance Injectors only! These ECU's will give you control over your ignition map (12x12 table) and your fueling with a 12x12 table (16x16 on MS2 and MS3), allowing you to tune the engine properly. This includes a Tacho Output as standard |
This ECU has 8 fuel injector outputs (so can run any engine up to an 8cy) sllowing each fuel injector to be controlled in a fully sequential operation. See HERE for more on sequential fuel. This allows you to tune the exactly angle during the 4 stroke engine cycle that the fuel is squirted in for each cylinder. Please note: A suitable cam signal is needed to run full sequential (1 pulse per cam revolution) and a suitable crank signal (60-2, 36-1, etc) High Impedance Injectors only! This ECU will give you control over your ignition map 16x16 table and your fueling with a 16x16, as well as fine tuning fuel and ignition for each cylinder, allowing you to tune the engine to a very high accuracy! The ignition can either be coil packs (wasted spark) or sequential COPs The MS3 COP based setups have an MS3X board in them which gives you tacho output, launch control, NOS control, ADC inputs, etc see HERE for more. If using the MS3X then you'll need to use COPs with built in ignitors, e.g LS1, etc, as the MS3X board uses a low level spark output (5V) that can not directly fire coils without an ignitor. If the COPs don't have built in Ignitors then there is the option of adding a Spark Driver Box, see HERE |
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This ECU directly replace the Lucas Hotwire (14CUX) on TVR's, Morgans, Rovers, etc, etc. The RV8 PnP ECU is exclusively available from V8Developments |
These ECU's all come with the standard options
Take a look at the Extras section for
more options
Description of Options
MS1 Options
MS2 and MS3 Options
MS3 with MS3X Board
Description of Options:
(Note: When using the MS3X board on an MS3 ECU, many of these options are already included, so ignore the individual cost)# NOS - Nitrous control (An output to drive a relay coil that's triggered by a minimum RPM, TPS, etc; It also uses an input that switches to a new timing map or fixed ignition retard. Can be used as an Anti-Lag for turbo applications too. Buffered, flywheel protection circuit +£12 Please Note: This is counted as 2 options, 1 for the input, 1 for the output, so only 2 more can be added) See HERE for more details
#NOS - Nitrous control for MS2-Extra Only (up to 2 outputs to drive a dual stage or single stage NOS setup that's triggered by a minimum RPM, TPS, etc; It also uses an input that switches to a new timing map or fixed ignition retard. 2 x Buffered, flywheel protection circuit +£15 for 2 outputs or +£12 for 1 output Please Note: This is counted as 2 or 3 options, 1 for the input, 1 or 2 for the outputs) See HERE for more details.
# Switchable map tables for Fuel or Spark or Boost or any combination (Switches between 2 maps e.g. LPG and Petrol, etc; Buffered and protected circuit +£8) See HERE for more details# Boost control (Target values for boost levels depending on TPS and RPM, controlling the turbo's waste gate high powered FET driver +£10 †) See HERE for more details
# 38PSI of boost (400KPa) Manifold Pressure Sensor (The standard MAP sensor is capable of detecting 21PSI of boost, in some rare cases this may not be enough, so a 38PSI (400KPa) sensor can be fitted. +£50) See HERE for more details (This is not part of the MS3X board, so will need adding to the order)
# Water injection control for MS1-Extra and MS3 Only (Pulsed water injection output to give a proportional water ratio using a fast acting valve and a water pump relay output high powered FET driver for the valve and a buffered, flywheel protection circuit for the control relay +£15 For water pump relay control ONLY buffered, flywheel protection circuit +£5) See HERE for more details
# Dual EGO sensor support (Filter components for a 2nd separate Lambda sensor, 1 for each bank of a V6 or V8 +£5)
# Shift / Warning Light (I can add a single output that can be switched by several sources e.g. Air temp, RPM, coolant buffered, current limited circuit ready to directly connect to an LED +£5 Includes a red LED please remind me though, as I tend to forget to include it from time to time :o( See HERE for more details
# Launch Control / Flat shift (Limit RPM during takeoff / shifting to get a better 1/4 mile time Buffered and protected circuit +£8) See HERE for more details
# Real-time (Constant) Barometric Correction (Really only suitable for hill climbers or mountain dwellers includes filtering circuit and a second MAP sensor fitted internal to detect atmospheric pressure +£25) (This is not part of the MS3X board, so will need adding to the order)
# Cooling Fan programmable output (An output that controls a relay for your cooling fan. This has a programmable ON temperature and a programmable OFF temperature built in flywheel protection, buffered circuit +£5) See HERE for more details.
# Up to 4 programmable Outputs (A driver to control a relay built in flywheel protection, buffered circuit +£5 each) See HERE for more details
# Knock sensor input (Connection wiring only!! This needs a pre-built knock circuit, see HERE for more details. FREE internally wired only!!!)
# Dual wheel decoder/2nd trigger input (For a second hall sensor input opto protected circuit with hall conditioning +£15 For a second VR sensor input including separate VR conditioning circuit +£35)
Up to 4 additional items like, launch, prog outputs, knock, etc can be added to a standard MS ECU
(The MS3X board has more options built in).
For more info on these functions please contact me.† - This code is experimental although some people have had some considerable success with the system.
MS1 Option Configuration
Two functions in the same row can NOT be used together!
e.g. NOS and Water Injection as they are not used in another pad, etc,
but NOS and Tacho could, as tacho can come from JS3.¡ Not recommended to use these together.
(5 COP - 10 and over wasted spark setups)
(12cy wasted spark setups)
(Used for vertually all ignition setups)
(6cy and over wasted spark setups)
(Cooling Fan Relay)
(4cy and over wasted spark setups)
(8cy and over wasted spark setups)
Note: Most outputs can be set for Tacho, ExtraEFI.co.uk uses JS3 if available.MS2 and MS3 Option Configuration
Any function in the same row (A B C D E or F) can NOT be used together!
(e.g. if your using a Stepper motor for idle you can not use NOS control as its not used in another pad, etc,
but Stepper motor and Tacho could as Tacho can come from JS11, or others.)Please note: For MS3 ECU's without an MS3X board you can have the same options as the table below.
If you go for an MS3X board then you will get THESE options all built in, so ignore the table below.
(12cy wasted spark setups)
( >= 10cy wasted spark setups)
(>=8cy wasted spark setups)
(Vertually all igntion setups) except EDIS
( >= 6cy wasted spark setups)
( >= 4cy wasted spark setups)† All 4 (JS0-JS3) pads are used for the stepper motor if selected!
Note: Most outputs can be set for Tacho, ExtraEFI.co.uk uses JS11 if available.Please Note:
You don't need the MS3X in order to have some of these options on an MS3 ECU (or any of the MS ECU's I sell).
Some are available as add ons to the main board without the MS3X, see the MS2 and MS3 Options Tab above for more details.
The MS3X board is a module that plugs into the MS3 daughter board. This makes the MS ECU 3 layers high:
1: Main board (V3.0 or V3.57)
2: MS3 daughter Board
3: MS3X expansion board.This option is only available for the MS3 ECU and it gives you the following inputs and outputs:
8 x Logic Level Spark Outputs - These are 5V triggers for COPs with built in ignitors (e.g. Yukon LS2) and can NOT drive a coil directly.
8 x High Current Injector Bank Drivers - These are capable of driving high impedance injectors (NOT lo-impedance)
4 x Logic Level Inputs - 3 that need to switch to ground, 1 that needs to switch to +12V. They can be used to control options like Launch, datalogging, N2O, switch maps, etc.
6 x Medium Current Outputs - For controlling NOS, Idle valves, Boost valves, tacho, etc.
3 x Spare ADC inputs - 0-5V inputs for second O2, etc.
1 x VR / Hall sensor input - This gives the ECU a total of 2 trigger inputs, e.g. one for the cam and one for the crank.All my MS3 ECUs can have the MS3X board adding for £80.
MS3X wiring Looms start from £30, depending on spark and injector quantity.
Those marked with ** already have the MS3X built-in and include a loom
(so no extra charge)Please Note:
You don't need the MS3X in order to have some of these options on an MS3 ECU (or any of the MS ECU's I sell).
Some are available as add ons to the main board without the MS3X, see the MS2 and MS3 Options Tab above for more details.
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